Google finally did it!
My biggest beef with my android phone has always been being held back by carrier skins overlaying the stock android OS, and also the fragmentation of getting the latest OS updates on various android phones. This has often been listed as one of Android's biggest downsides. I resigned myself that this was going to be the way it is with android forever. But they're changing that, and what's better is it's happening this year. Awesome news!
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As far as Android is concerned, awesome is an understatement. This is groundbreaking! I'm so happy about the new tech coming out this year, and frankly I'm completely amazed at how all of the different smartphone companies are actually doing things this year that customers have been asking for. Actually I'm a little scared that they're being so in tune. Why has that van with the tinted windows and big antennas been parked outside my house so long anyway...?Carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all
- 05-16-2012, 05:40 PM #5
I like this idea and I will probably buy one of these if this ever happens. But I don't think this will be successful. Google tried this a little more than two years ago with Nexus One. It was sold directly by google, free of contract, or on contract if you preferred that. How many did they sell? 302 phones?
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05-16-2012, 05:47 PM #6I will never understand these "help me to decide" threads. Grow a pair, or put on your big girl panties (whichever applies), and make the decision that works best for you. - AmazinglyGraceless.
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- 05-17-2012, 03:38 PM #8
I will gladly pay full price for a carrier free Android device. Lets face it, the openness of Android has been a disaster especially for the latest ICS version. Months after the release of ICS there are still devices that are stuck on Gingerbread because of carrier skins and interference.
Moto Blur, Sense and Touch wiz and carrier crap ware take away from the Android experience that Google intended. Android has gained much traction since the Original Nexus One and this time around I'm sure they will succeed selling devices directly. This is good news and can't wait for this to happen. I purchased a Galaxy Nexus last week directly from Google and will never get anymore Android devices from my mobile provider.
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- 05-17-2012, 06:19 PM #10
It's still kind of a niche way to buy phones in the States though, not nearly as common as it has been for years in other parts of the world.
Remains to be seen how many people will get onboard here buying phones that way...
- 05-17-2012, 08:31 PM #11
This is going to be a GSM only thing I would think.
If that's the case, I wont leave VZW for a new Nexus if they don't get it. The carrier is more important to me, and AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint all suck where I live. I am pissed that VZW is trying to take away my grandfathered unlimited data plan though.
- 05-19-2012, 06:07 AM #15
Although I love my 9800 and 9810, I might just want to try a new Android phone as well, and not needing to extend a contract for 3 years would be totally awesome. I can switch SIM cards from Telus and Rogers and have my Droid running on either. Happy Days.
IMO, having carriers removed from the equation and the removal of contracts for subsidized devices is a win win situation. Manufactures get their money, consumer gets freedom of selecting the BEST carrier for them, and the Carrier gets the benefit of knowing if they cannot provide the service quality they are expected to then they will be out of business.Samsung Galaxy SIII
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- 05-19-2012, 09:14 AM #16
- 05-19-2012, 10:14 AM #17
And yet another reason why open source doesn't work and has failed Android users. BTW I'm also a Motorola Atrix owner, at the mercy of Motorola and bad news for me.
- 05-19-2012, 11:28 AM #18
If Nexus devices start getting multiple manufacturers, you are going to see Android being presented as it should, without all the crap and updates directly from the source, rather than being at the mercy of the carriers and handset makers."Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their sleeves, some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all." -Sam Ewing
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That's a problem I solved in a few hours
Thing is, you don't even need to unlock the bootloader, which is by far the more complicated part. Rooting itself can be done with a automated batch file in a matter of minutes. Then all you need to do is install a custom launcher, then install Titanium Backup and freeze all of the Motoblur stuff. Including the Blur launcher itself. Presto, you have a one year old phone that will out dps an unrooted Galaxy Nexus on html5 speed performance tests (depending on how speedy the custom launcher you chose is)
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- 05-19-2012, 02:44 PM #20
BTW I'm the last person that needs to be schooled on how to customize Android devices after almost thee years as an Android user.
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- 05-19-2012, 02:59 PM #21
BTW on the last AC podcast Jerry said that Sense devices aren't even Android because HTC alters the framework in such a way that you can't really consider sense devices Android. Is this what Google was striving for?
I do Agree with you on how Nexus devices are going to present the Android OS the way is was meant to be.
- 05-19-2012, 04:15 PM #22
That's why I'm liking BlackBerry again. I don't want to find apps to replace the native functions I use on it.
Whatver platform does the most of what I need ill go with.
ok fine. But just FYI, if you use Doomlord's basically one-click root, then within a few really quick and easy minutes you'll be rooted. Then install titanium backup (which as an avid android rooter, you already know is a great app), and use it to freeze all of the bloatware. That'll take you maybe 10 more easy minutes to sift through. I can even help you make it even easier by linking you doomlord's rooting thread, along with the lists of stuff that can safely be frozen using TiBu, I bookmarked it all from XDA's site. I did all of that, then I installed a custom launcher (currently using L7 because I just like it). Then went back into TiBu one more time and froze the actual Blur launcher itself so that L7 runs as its own launcher rather than on top of Blur.
The Atrix is freaking fast now. Very little time and effort. The payoff? I basically spent a total of 45 minutes doing everything, BUT that included finding info for myself. You see, I'm NOT an avid rooter. And it still only took me that long my first time trying it. Someone like you will have it done in less time than you spend making a full pot of coffee, and it was easy for a newbie like me even.
Nothing like the bootloader unlocking runaround you're talking about. I did that as well afterwards, but then I discovered I didn't need to bother because I'm not flashing custom ROM's. By the way, my experience with XDA's horrible and outdated tutorials available for unlocking the Atrix made that part of my day a royally painful process. I can't blame you for being pissed about that part if your experience was anything like mine.Carrier controlled updates is the worst smartphone spec of them all
- 05-21-2012, 01:31 PM #25
Your average user (the largest percentage of buyers) aren't going to work around anything...
Also open source doesn't really have anything to do with it. HTC has been skinning their phones with sense since windows mobile 6...